More information... People also love these ideas The joke isn't funny, just about her appearance, the 'traitor' part is very questionable and wrong. It one of those ships that pairs two ships that were opponents in history, a la Bismarck x Hood, where Mammie and Jean traded shots during the Battle of Casablanca, resulting in the then incomplete Jean Bart being disabled. (it is the same when you push a self-insert in a game with no self-insert). Jean Bart was originally a 6-star extremely rare ship transformed into a beautiful girl in the mobile game Azur Lane. I've been on forums since I was 13, 20 years ago. KMS Graf Zeppelin - German ship. I've mentioned my point multiple times, there is no reason for your posts to exist other than to slam on the JB/Mass ship. Bleeding ur ppl to death is pointless if it can hardly do any shit. ... Will ship within 10 business days of receiving cleared payment. [–]Blazing_The_TrailJean Bart & :Richelieu:Richelieu Best Girls 6 points7 points8 points 2 months ago (1 child). Next time, I won't be. it sounds scary but well we put a removal reason 99% of the time so it isn't really. More like the one carrying the banner of the regime that submitted to the Ironblood(Seems like they dont want to end up like Poland did). Link (scroll to service history):, [–]YingvirSaintLouis 10 points11 points12 points 2 months ago (7 children). [–]Madturkey55Is happily married to Roon[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (2 children), [–]Blazing_The_TrailJean Bart & :Richelieu:Richelieu Best Girls 10 points11 points12 points 2 months ago (1 child). She is now a museum ship in the US. Jean Bart ignored this, then ordered her group to basically commit mass suicide as a one last fuck you to everyone. Did the OP break a rule by including the JB/Mass line? While less offensive work is permitted, always mark as NSFW if you are unsure. Since it seems you are the one not getting that. There is nothing to get, there is one fan artist already used to shipping who drew them together a lot for no particular reason other than she ships them because she wants to. [–]YingvirSaintLouis 3 points4 points5 points 2 months ago (0 children). MemeShipGirl basics Chart Number 70: Jean BartOC (, submitted 2 months ago by Madturkey55Is happily married to Roon, [–]FindingtherealgodHigh Templar of the cult, 's supporter 40 points41 points42 points 2 months ago (0 children). … use the following search parameters to narrow your results: 1 No harassment, hate speech, or circlejerking. To start a crack/fanon ship you don't need much more than two characters breathing in the same room and even that is sometimes unneeded. To be fair, at least with Massa and JB there's an argument to be made that they did eventually end up on the same side. OP happens to make a slightly comedic chart of every ships, Jean Bart is really popular and a lot of people were looking forward to it. And it is thanks to mod that the situation hasn't degenerated further because it isn't like some are still trying to push the crack ship outside relevant post, but things are slowly settling down. 2) Adding this, you came in the thread and made a snide remark on how people spend time, which just comes off as haughty for no reason that making it look like at best patronizing. That there was a fan-artist posting all the art? [–]shotgun509 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago (1 child). He posted a meme and most of the replies are people complaining about the ship. No more, no less. Azur Lane’s Gorgeous Jean Bart & Ryuuhou Figure Prototypes Revealed. It ultimately turned into them barging in other JB and Massachusetts post, even going after art directly made to pander to the self-insert romance/core appeal of the game, and trying to push the ship over it. Vichya Dominion Battleship (353) Article by Andres Cheung. Please only flair as Comic TL if you're the translator or typesetter or both (if not just flair as art). Shipping asides, this chart is quite frankly terrible now that I think about it. and join one of thousands of communities. And it's not even cannon( which I suppose is nice because I found all the fanart about them together annoying). And most of people reason are : because there is a lot of art of those two by this one artist. [–]YingvirSaintLouis 6 points7 points8 points 2 months ago (2 children), (I do have one question tho, why did the artist pick Massachusetts for the pairing if the artist didn't know the historical events. The title of the post should also not be a spoiler. Both Jean Bart and Massachusetts have much more to them than a non-cannon shipping. The higher-ups of the former Iris Orthodoxy and Vichya Dominion. Wanted two favorites who should have hated each other to love each other instead? But she is hot as hell, [–]IsitgaytolikedavinciLove Is Overated I’m Just Here For The Millitary Benefits 14 points15 points16 points 2 months ago* (1 child), NO stop brother attractivity is transient and Loyalty is (mostly) eternal there are plenty of boats in the sea, [–]nuxastasEnterprise 5 points6 points7 points 2 months ago (0 children), Dont worry im loyal to enty, but that doesn't avoid me to appreciate some French Ingeniring, [–]Drachk♡♡♡ 29 points30 points31 points 2 months ago* (22 children). Also if u think about it, Jean is just a escape goat. [–]MyIdolJdiiThe God Emperor watches over us all 11 points12 points13 points 2 months ago (1 child). This page was last edited on 27 July 2018, at 22:16. I hope so. Massa and Jean are a wholesome and cute couple, you better not say anything bad about it. Azur Lane: Crosswave Taihou DLC Gets New Screenshots; Jean Bart, Dunkerque, and Saint Louis Revealed. The pairing is probably referring to the fact both Massachusetts and Jean Bart fought against each other during the war. Jean Bart is a ship in Azur Lane. I know it isn't supposed to be serious, but its like if the Baltimore chart were just jokes about her body and top it off with NTR joke. Nobody complains about the five bajillion "seducing the commander" pieces. Comic TL only applies to posts that are comics and have some interaction in dialogue (not just a few words or a sentence). (the crack ship), [–]Shikikan2724Albacore’s slave 3 points4 points5 points 2 months ago (0 children), [+]TakesatoKeitaMikasaSchool comment score below threshold-11 points-10 points-9 points 2 months ago (0 children). Because the artist is really prolific, it ended up becoming enough art to spam it, which lead overtime to most JB content being from the artist, which in itself isn't an issue. There was one historical encounter between the two. OP post is just slightly poor timing, since it happen to be just when some people are starting to bury it and is the equivalent of putting dirt and salt by mistake on a wound that was closing itself. As for the people that served Vichy, some did it because they simply couldn't leave everything behind, be it family or something else, some were trying to mitigate damage a'd of course a lot of newcomers to the government were dirt bag who either saw the opportunity to rise to power or to push their own ideals or even worse, embraced their own form of Nazi ideology. Increase the DMG of the first Volley of every Salvo this ship fires by 40.0% (60%). Doing something that upset other because you want to reference the fact it upset other, doesn't change the fact that acknowledging/referencing something as upsetting, doesn't stop it from being upsetting. Azur Lane Jean.Bart Cosplay Costume Kimono Outfits Halloween Carnival Suit. All rights reserved. As far as I'm concerned that one artist who draws JB/Mass is doing the lord's work, considering the AL community seems weirdly hostile toward yuri in general. during D-day 2 electric boogaloo the Vichya Dominion government declared for Azur lane ( allies 2 electric boogaloo) and ordered their ship-girl's to aid in the liberation. In the best of both worlds, this art fanon ship and the other characters art would have not mixed, people would have made the difference between a fanon and Canon, and each side would not barge in some sort of rug of war. 8 Ch. Incidentally, the current Italy-focused (or Sardegna Empire, as the country is called in the game) â€œEmpyreal Tragicomedy” event is still going on in the game, while new Chinese shipgirls are coming soon to celebrate the Lunar New Year. The only to push people to actively hate is to go after them and spam them about Jimmy song to the point they snap. At least zui zui and enty get their own solo art while JB/massa art is almost always with them together, [–]Kristoffer_201989Noshiro 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children), [–]TheRoySezAko is Mangyanvs ng Amagi server 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children), One fan artist goes all closed minds with the JB x Mamie pairing while JB had other encounters like Ranger, and Augusta, a Northampton-class heavy cruiser / training cruiser, who is yet to appear in the game, [+]ArakosSylziaKitsune are the best (but Hanazuki is bestest) comment score below threshold-16 points-15 points-14 points 2 months ago (9 children). If you don't like ww2 stuff, either you adapt or you quit, it is not up to the people here to enjoy that as well as the game to change nor it is up to other to push for a change. To each their kink, and that is a good personal phantasm like any other and she doesn't even try to push unto other and mostly kept it on her social media. [+]DrrLuciferJeanBart comment score below threshold-8 points-7 points-6 points 2 months ago (3 children), Even if Massachussets is by her side, JB will stay deep into my heart. I'm just astounded by the sheer scale of it. It is what started the backlash a'd it just ramped up with people hitting back, if other were going to barge in same for them until it become obvious that if they are going to force a ship by the numbers against self-inserting romance in a game about self-inserting romance, they are the one going against the stream and numbers, and that they are going to be a lot more push back than the other way around. Posts and comments breaking rules will be subject to removal without notice (we usually do comment on what you did wrong, though). And the last alternative would be to mock people who ships it by acting as puzzled as people who are doubtful over it, which is to ask "why though". In both case, it means rewritting and changing stuff to your desire and pushing it over the actual subject of discussion the game. Some of them go to her ship, took her brother and place him on Akagi Carrier and some grab ropes to help her drag his ship. For the artist itself, her JB posting only started on pixiv from several month after the event. I don't mind the ship nor do I think you need proper justification for a ship, some Ship are even based on the fact it makes little sense and even pair enemies together because they are enemies (this ship could slightly partially belong to that category) , Maybe it could of worked if it was a less-intense kind and caring big sister thing? You realize if you get downvoted, it is your own fault, don't act like you don't downvote as well. Now she look even more like a pirate captain. Especially one where the pairing turn a passive Massachusetts into an active go-getter and Jean-Bart into someone completely submissive. Jean Bart is absolutely not underappreciated gameplay-wise though. ? She was left in Iris while Richelieu and the others were escaping(why did Richelieu left Jean back home while she escaped?). Especially when the appeal of shipping directly conflict with the main appeal of the game. 2480x3508 6,338kB Among those who were forced to serve Germany there was also the STO (Obligatory service in the factories for the needs of the German army). 14 - Eldridge Wants To Communicate. 14 - Eldridge Wants To Communicate, [–]Blazing_The_TrailJean Bart & :Richelieu:Richelieu Best Girls 7 points8 points9 points 2 months ago (0 children). Even if people acknowledged that it isn't canon, they don't care anyway and pushed for the flanderized version because it is more popular. Do not post fanfics/RP in your art posts, make a separate thread for it. Also what Chamberlain did added more to the hate. If it was a checkers & chess sub and some people pushed gambling games & pokers, then it is expected for other to feel like they are being invasive, [–]shotgun509 -2 points-1 points0 points 2 months ago (6 children), Regardless of their server choice, ship choice, spending habits, or use of free time, respect your fellow players, Im sorry, I'm not going any further with you. Eventually some slowed down those art post and some because they realized it was spamming those art post that was the origin of the bandwagon and the push back. Just not as good for auto. Rather than having only reference about the character, some found he put in her description that one out of character pairing that goes against one of her main in-game. The other alternative if he did that on purpose, would be to mock JB fans/Stan, if that is the case which I highly doubt, that would be circlejerking over a pairing and break the subreddit rules if it was really his intention. Massachusetts has a really nice chill personality and is just generally adorable, while Jean Bart has a rather tragic backstory (traitor thing is up for debate) and I love how she's kinda annoyed at Surcouf for not being pirate'y enough to live up to her name (both Jean Bart and Surcouf are named after pirates / privateers), Ark has been truly taken over by her love for dds though, I think it's a shame considering her formidable history and awesome design. KMS Prinz Eugen - German ship. It’s unfortunate. Jean Bart. Those recent JB posts are mostly without Mass. The only thing changing is the intent not the result and i am not here to comment on OP intent but on the post itself. Well that's as much as you are allowed … [–]SweetHarmlessOneesan 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children). Aren't Vichy France more of a lapdog to Germany than a traitor to the Allies? And I was the one that asked for this. No low-effort posts, such as Ark Royal loli memes, pictures of defense fleets, numbah wan spam, etc. If your post is deemed not related enough, then it will be removed. You decided i was the one mocking literally everyone. A lot of fanon ships are nice and don't get any heat, the same was true for this ship. Chel.C added a new photo to the album: Azur Lane - MNF Jean Bart. [–]TurquoiseLeafRead Cripplehood on FanfictionNet 6 points7 points8 points 2 months ago (0 children). It's only when people started to realize that a lot of Jean Bart arts is just about the ship that people started to oppose it. Nah, a straight-up retcon is needed; the flanderization is too deep to be removed now. Comic TL still has to follow art rules. A'd it is not like Vichy itself was always poorly considered by (future) ally, as the US initially recognized and supported Vichy as the official France over France libre, notably because of Roosevelt and De Gaulle poor relationships and thus until Japan caused Pearl Harbor. I'm jealous. Ofc they cant refuse if Ironblood asks for somethin since they have a knife aim at their back. And yet some barging in saying "no it is about the ship" a'd other basically saying "how pathetic are people who self-insert and get upset when people barge in", mind you about a game revolving about self-inserting romance, that is like mocking people way into gun and shooting, in an FPS community. So that explains all the controversy. ShipGirl basics Chart Number 70: Jean Bart,,, Vol. She was scrapped in the 1970s. A Twitter artist got on board with it and has made most of the art involving the pairing. Cool so every Kansen referencing each other is not a crack pairing. Even with many people playing both games. And i saw them when searching for some Richelieu + Jean Bart art because they're sister :(, [–]Erak_Of_AcheronJeanBart A Pirate's Life for Me! People either claiming that the shipping is cannon or being hostile / aggressive about it is annoying and problematic though. [–]shotgun509 -3 points-2 points-1 points 2 months ago (4 children), I'd like to remind you, all this was started by you guys complaining. It sucks in a different way. She is so cool yet has a soft heart which you can see in her interaction dialogues. 【彩色公開】大人気スマートフォンゲーム『#アズールレーン』より「龍鳳 鳳舞う正月ver.」の彩色見本を公開!ご予約開始までもう間もなくとなります!#龍鳳 #コトブキヤ, WINGS inc.が企画・製作[アズールレーン ジャン・バール ドレス Ver.] [–]shotgun509 2 points3 points4 points 2 months ago (10 children). I mean it took 2 years for Iris Libre to come back w/ Allied help. I do hate it though. And it is a circlejerk not even about the game but something people want to push over the actual game. There's only one artist who does a bunch of Mass/JB art, though, because that's their thing. random Oct 14, 2020 9:38AM ^ Bart only had one operational turret to begin with and got mere seven shots off before a shell from Massachusetts jammed its turning mechanism. Also it is a good way for people to evacuate frustration and minor annoyance in some sort of weird counter-bandwagon (which is the same as bandwagon), [–]nDroaeMoms Backline Thrall of the Butterfly Queen 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children). I mean it has also stopped as long as the ship is not pushed, it only reappears when the ship does as well . So they are likely slowing down to let the shipping bandwagon fade out and with it, the backlash that formed against it. ), [–]Blazing_The_TrailJean Bart & :Richelieu:Richelieu Best Girls 10 points11 points12 points 2 months ago (2 children). In the event you love Yostar’s cell sport Azur Lane and figures, producers Kotobukiya and Wings have a few pretty treats coming. So id say its Richeliue thats the problem here. I'm arguing against you guys because i feel bad for the OP. 12. Jean countermanded this order and instead told them to fight both the crimson axis and azur lane. Except they didn't ally with the axis power, (Edit: most of) the French that served the axis, were the "malgré-nous" (meaning "despite ourselves"), which were named like that because they were forcefully conscripted after refusing to join willingly (edit:when Germany tried to incorporate Alsace, which was unexpected from the Germans as they expected a good amount of Alsacian would be more welcoming and supportive but it turns out not that many Alsacian felt German at heart or more supportive of the Reich than their country freedom ) . We're going to have to agree to disagree on that. I considered that, which is why I tried to keep my comments short and not spend much time on them. This subject (including this thread) always gets a lot of people saying "This isn't a big deal, you shouldn't care." Pre-orders for both figures are coming soon, but we don’t yet know release details and pricing. You are the one who went off with "well it is a joke so obviously people who find its inclusion puzzling are just being oblivious to the joke", maybe they just don't find it good be it as a joke or not? While not the best of friends or anything, Mamie seems to have a healthy respect for Jean Bart. (in fact if you search for art "pairing" them together , you'll mostly found Massa raping JB so it is not like the event had any romantic implication to induce that over the rest), so it is likely not the event and she seemed to have learned about background well after she shipped them. She's the original reason why I played this game in the first place. Great one as always, all our love and energy for you to keep going strong \o/, [–]Drachk♡♡♡ 19 points20 points21 points 2 months ago (0 children). That sucks. [–]Blazing_The_TrailJean Bart & :Richelieu:Richelieu Best Girls 8 points9 points10 points 2 months ago* (0 children). She only 2 main gun mounts (like other french battleships) but she also has preloaded salvo, she can immediately fires once the battle started. Little sisters include: HIMS Meiya - built based on german designs. Don't worry, it is so far just a crack ship which for some weird reason OP referenced. So if we put piece together, it is likely that after getting fond of Jean Bart, just like any fan do, she searched for JB material and since she is already a fan of shipping, she was probably looking for some material/fuel a'd that is how she picked Massachusetts . Also, not to mention all her costumes in game are so well designed! You weren't aware of what? Like for the same reason in game/media about romantic shipping and pairing, an out of place self-insert into the romantic main draw is completely throwing off the appeal of the game. [–]Harusong23 33 points34 points35 points 2 months ago (19 children). But the Azur Lane shipgirls also see them dragging the ship … The seller has specified an extended handling time for … Stay tuned for more photos! Like if it was another game and about shipping and there was no self insert, people, people trying to push their fantasy/kink into a game were it has no relevancy, to people not interested, then the shippers would be annoyed and push away this circlejerk (and it is something that happen often). It sounds obvious but it needs to be said. A'd I guess Dunkerque and Jean-Bart must be a really pushed pairing considering that they several time the amount of positive interaction and at least, Jean-Bart seems to acknowledge Dunkerque existence unlike Massachusetts existence. 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